Chinese Lesson - From Beijing Chinese School for some slightly more personal help.

[top]Conflicts and cases where CJKOS doesn't work

CJKOS *does not* work with Documents To Go, excepting versions 7 and 8 (or 8 and 9?).

If you want to use CJKOS, and still be able to have non-English European languages on your device,
you are probably out of luck. Due to the way CJKOS works (which is quite technical), if you have,
say, the word divorcee, but with the proper é, then it will convert from divorcée to divorc(..)
where the (..) represents a single Chinese character, thus making it anywhere between hard and
totally impossible to use non-English European languages together with CJKOS.

However, if you do install CJKOS and find that it's converted all your accents to characters, the
easy way to revert is to simply turn off CJKOS. There, at present, doesn't seem to be a solution
or workaround for having CJKOS and non-English European languages at the same time.

Additionally, when synching Chinese Characters written using CJKOS to your desktop, you will need
to either have your regional settings set to Chinese PRC (or Taiwan, if you're using Traditional
Characters), or use AppLocal on Windows in order to be able to see them. Otherwise they will
appear as garbage.

Finally, CJKOS was developed primarily to write Chinese. While it supports display of Japanese
Kanji and Kana, there's no way to write Japanese Kanji using it, and as such you'll need a
separate program if you plan on using Japanese a lot. You can write Kata-/Hiri- gana, but there's
no way to convert them to Kanji. J-OS (http://simple-palm.com/) is one option, but be aware that
the page is in Japanese, and there have been reports that you need a Japanese Bank Account for it.

[top]Handwriting Input

[top]PenPower

UNFINISHED
Note: The interface is entirely in Chinese, and it needs CJKOS to function.

[top]Palms and Plecodict

The popular dictionary software for Palm, Plecodict, comes with character display and input built
in. Therefore you do not need any extra software to run Plecodict. However, you will need it if
you want to use Chinese in other applications - ie email, SMS, web browsing, etc.

[top]Windows Mobile / CE

CE Star - Perhaps the most useful tool to enable the use and reading of Chinese characters on the
windows mobile device. Its pretty easy to use, and even if you dont use the SIP/IME you can still
read Chinese on your device. It does however conflict with Pleco 2 at the moment and it also has
issues with MS Reader. This is not free but can be found at this site http://www.ce-star.com/

Monster Chinese - Is perhaps the alternative to CE Star. Its just as easy to use and has many
different SIPs/IMEs that can be used to type in Chinese. There have been rumblings of trouble
using this program on the newer windows devices but this is has yet to be confirmed This can be
found here http://www.mactiontech.com/english/monster_chinese.asp

D-ear input is a nice and very easy to use. Their are two that I know of the 10 key input and the
full keyboard. I have not found any conflicts using this program so far but its not one I use that
often. (Can be found for free at this site http://www.d-ear.com/English/newsview.asp?id=174
(thanks to Oulaian)

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[top]ATM

For simplicity's sake, and assuming you aren't going to be earning any money locally, the best
thing to do is probably use your bank card from home - obviously check you'll be able to, but
there can't be many cards that can't be used abroad nowadays. It might be worth opening a new
account at home with a bank that offers good rates on overseas transactions.

Many banks charge an international transaction fee, in addition to an ATM withdrawal charge. These
charges can be substantial.

However, if you shop around, you may find banks that don't charge such fee. Nationwide in UK is
one. Bank of America (US) has a relationship with China Construction Bank, and there is no fee for
withdrawing from Construction Bank ATMs with Bank of American ATM cards.

If you are from Germany, your EC card will work in China and you can withdraw cash. The fees are
quite low too

[top]Wire Transfer

Wire transfer, also known as T/T, is the fastest way to receive a large amount of money. You need
the destination bank's number, also know as the swift code and your account no. Banks usually
charge from USD20-USD40 one time for outgoing transfer. There is no limit as far as I know to how
much you can transfer. Large corporations transfer millions all the time through wire. Incoming
transfers have no charges.

Transferring out of China, however, is more complicated (to be discussed).

For wire, Bank of China is the quickest. Some of the other banks wire through Bank of China and
will take much longer. Bank of China transfer usually get through the next day.

One thing to note: make sure your name matches that in your passport! If you have a middle name on
your passport, but no middle name on your wire transfer, the transaction may not go through.

Exchange rates through the Bank of China is close to the market rate. If you try to withdraw your
cash in your native currency before exchanging to RMB, they will charge you 1%. If you convert
first to RMB, then there is no charge.

[top]Opening a Bank Account

If you are in China for China for a long-term stay, it may be more convenient to open up a local
bank account. The biggest banks in China are Bank of China (中国银行), Industrial and
Commercial Bank (ICBC - 工商银行), Agricultural Bank (农业银行), Construction Bank (CCB -
建设银行), Bank of Communications 交通银行, and China Merchants Bank (CMB - 招商银行).

Although probably all of the above banks can receive foreign wire transfers and exchange your
foreign currency, Bank of China (BoC) has special authority in deal in foreign currency. In
particular, for depositing a check from a foreign bank account, BoC charges a much lower
processing fee (about RMB10) than the other local banks and the processing time is much shorter
(5-6 weeks vs. 8 or more weeks), though still too long.

Bank of China accounts were always limited to the province/region where you opened them.

All you need to open a bank account is your passport, an address and a phone number. It could even
be a friend's address. They don't check and won't be mailing you anything. Though it might be
intimidating if you don't know Chinese, BofC has staff that speaks English and has many
non-Chinese-speaking customers..

For a long-term stay, it may be preferable to open a local bank account and use the debit card
they issue. To transfer money from foreign accounts, you can either wire them over or deposit a
personal check paid to yourself. Wire probably can happen within a day. Depositing a personal
check takes much longer, about a 1-month turnaround, but the fee is much less for a personal
check, less than US$10 paid to BofC vs. US$30 you would have to pay the banks on the two ends for
the wire. Once the foreign currency is in your BofC, you can convert it into RMB as needed.

Many banks have nowadays online banking. ICBC has an English interface, which makes handling
easier. CMB has Chinese only. HSBC has also an English interface, but it is not really a "local"
bank. Their deposit minimum now is RMB 100,000 - or you pay RMB 150/month account fees.

For sending money within China check the transfer fees. They are different from inner city and out
of city. They can be as high as 1%, usually capt at RMB50

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